[awesome_dude]

At the risk of stepping into USA POL (which is quite polarised)

MAGA is a Right wing response to corporates - they put all their faith into someone who they thought was going to take to the "elites" who they believed were responsible for the corporates being able to r*pe and pillage through society.

The Left wing response was Occupy Wall street and such.

On a similar note skinheads had a far left branch and a far right branch (the far right is what skinheads are now primarily seen as)

[jghn]

On paper, yes. But just like the tea party, and how "libertarian" has been completely coopted, they're really just tools for the same corporate interests as before.

[awesome_dude]

I mean, yes, that's where things are ending up (IMO), but I am only talking about why people chose that pathway.

[ErroneousBosh]

> MAGA is a Right wing response to corporates

No, it's a cynical marketing exercise designed to make people think that.

They're just selling hats. Hats that are costing way, way more than the sticker price, especially for the people who buy them.

[lurk2]

> No, it's a cynical marketing exercise designed to make people think that.

The grandparent comment is referring to MAGA the demographic, not MAGA the political machine. How could the political machine have sold hats (or immigration policy, or tariffs) if no one in the broader movement wanted to buy them?

[ErroneousBosh]

Marketing. They've got to sell the idea somehow.

Otherwise how would a serial failed businessman get so much traction? It's all marketing.

[lurk2]

Trump did not create the support for border control and immigration enforcement among the American general public. He won because these policies were third rails for anyone involved in establishment politics, whose donors rely on illegal immigrants to undermine organized labor.

[awesome_dude]

This is the problem with USA politics.

I'm talking about one groups (apparent) motivations, you're talking about your perspective of the groups leadership.