[saubeidl]

Not unless there is political pressure for it.

We are not bystanders in some scheme played out by others. We're the protagonists. Our (in-) action determines how things play out.

[p-e-w]

Please describe a concrete action by private individuals that would lead to this incident being properly investigated.

[saubeidl]

There's many ways, from benign organizing of protests or involving the media all the way down to armed insurrection or terrorist threats. Again, you're a protagonist - choose your own story!

[p-e-w]

7 million people protested against Donald Trump on October 18th, one of the largest protests in human history.

It meant Jack Shit.

If they had brought arms, they would have been gunned down by people with more powerful arms, and it would still mean Jack Shit.

[saubeidl]

Sure, that's one example of it going one way.

Then there's Ghandi, the Arab Spring, Milošević, the Iranian Shah as examples of things going the other way - and those are just the ones that immediately came to mind.

Again, don't be a bystander believing in foregone conclusions - that way you make them self-fulfilling prophecies. Be part of writing the story instead!

[p-e-w]

All of those happened in underdeveloped, weak countries with decades of violent infighting preceding those events.

If something similar were attempted in any Western country, the people involved would be murdered and things would be back to normal the next day.

There’s a reason European countries maintain twice as many police officers per capita as the “police state” China.

[saubeidl]

Decades of violent infighting don't come out of nowhere, they were somebody's conscious decision.

Again, you can be a bystander or a protagonist.

[anamax]

> 7 million people protested against Donald Trump on October 18th, one of the largest protests in human history.

What should have happened if 6 million people had protested against Biden? How about 8 million?