[thangalin]

Neato's D-Series Botvac just works (e.g., BVD8-SD/HP). No Bluetooth. No cloud. No Wi-Fi. Zero network connectivity required. Had mine about 10 years. Replaced the battery once, probably due for another one. Still cleans well.

I don't understand the appeal of having local appliances bound to the fate of network services.

[ctz]

I have a Neato D650 which I assume meets that classification and is covered by the service withdrawal, it is now pretty degraded -- no notifications, no mapping, no keep-out zones.

No notifications means if it gets stuck it stays there.

No mapping means if it doesn't fully clean the space (eg, a door is closed) then I have no way of knowing without baby-sitting it.

No keep-out zones means every clean involves carefully preparing the space to hang up trailing wires out of the way -- previously I just had some keep-outs near the wires and that worked perfectly.

Without all these features I have stopped using it; it is quicker to just use a stick vacuum.

[stuaxo]

I've got a robot vac and only use it "manually" they do get stuck from time to time, but its just grab it and stick it down in whatever area.

The house has stairs in bits anyway.

If it was on a schedule it could only do the bit it was in if I left a door open, so why not just use it manually ?

I have never let it on the WiFi.