[aixpert]

i'm a real developer and it is absolutely magic! if someone showed me a demo of talking to a computer which works for one hour to find and fix my bugs all on its own five years ago I'd definitely call it magic and I still call it magic.

does it make a mistakes? yes sometimes but you can verify with tests or with lean.

[jxixjxjx]

I experience(d) the same level of magic when I throw keywords into google and get relevant results back. LLMs are just an extension of this kind of magic.

Their efficacy opens up a lot more possibility, but given they’re not AGI (without getting into a definitions debate) a lot of the magic is gone. Nothing fundamentally changed. I still use them a lot and they’re great, but it’s not a new paradigm (which I would then call magic).

I think the key point here too is LLMs demo like magic. You see the happy path and you think we have AGI. You show me of 10 years ago the happy path and I’d be floored until I talked to me of now and got the whole story.

[aurareturn]

Agreed. Imagine if a developer was in a comma for 3 years, wakes up, and sees a state of the art coding agent for the first time.

[brazukadev]

They'll be impressed for a few months and then start to notice where it fails.

[aurareturn]

It's not perfect. When you hire a new software dev, you'll quickly notice where he/she fails too.