[captainkrtek]

Do you think they're using the guise of "its solar radiation" as cover to do a software update to fix a more problematic "bug", and perhaps tangentially there are some changes in said-update to improve some error correcting type code (eg: related to detecting spurious bit flips).

[maximilianburke]

Not in aviation.

[superxpro12]

Counterpoint: Boeing MCAS tho

[Bratmon]

Does the 737-Max not count as aviation anymore?

[edoceo]

It does. It is but the Max issue was well different to this one.

[aunty_helen]

No, that would be straight to jail.

[vlovich123]

Remind me who from Boeing went to jail?

[stackghost]

Airbus is in Europe where the Rule of Law still exists

[vlovich123]

That’s what we naively thought here too.

[kakacik]

Look at how US government treats financial behemoths which actively harm whole mankind vs how EU treats them. There is way more to this topic obviously (who wants to harm their local company), but generally US is pro-companies while Europe is pro-people.

[vlovich123]

Deutsche Bank and HSBC, two major European banks, have repeatedly admitted they have engaged in money laundering activities for Russia, drug cartels and terrorists and have consistently failed to meet their AML obligations. The US is the only entity that’s going after these banks for these issues winning significant judgments and even with that backdrop you don’t see any EU enforcement.

[fooker]

Yeah I don't buy it either.

If it was really 'solar radiation' there would be more small details.

[dboreham]

Reading the Airbus press release, I wonder if this is what happened:

Solar radiation event led to alpha particle induced data corruption in a flight control computer memory (could be DRAM, SRAM, on-chip cache, registers...). These failures are supposed to be transient (reboot and all is well).

This is an anticipated failure mode. Only one (of three?) computers should be affected by such a failure and therefore the remaining two keep on running the plane.

But what happened is <something> went wrong with the failover/voting mechanism (as often happens with one-off seldom-executed failover code). The result was no flight control computer functionality until the entire system was rebooted. Hence the emergency landing.

The fix is to address that software error, with perhaps a secondary fix TBD to harden the hardware (add some shielding perhaps).

The fact that they talk about data corruption and not just a malfunction suggests alpha bit flip rather than latch-up.

Then send the whole statement through a French to English translator to make it a bit more confusing.

[chasing0entropy]

I would say its pretty detailed -an unknown interference caused a single crc protected 32 bit word to be corrupted simultaneously, by timestamp, in both the flight controller hardware and the black box data recorder.

My concern would be what error correction mechanism did or did not catch the corruption in memory and why did it not recover without critical impact to operations?

[fooker]

> corrupted simultaneously

This sounds like a software bug.

Something like - {copy a to b, checksum a--b}

Instead of - {copy a to t, checksum a--t, copy t to b, checksum a--b}

I bet the fix is along these lines, with the caveat of real time systems/etc.

[londons_explore]

My guess is they haven't managed to point to the single memory bit which was flipped to cause this result.

The software update is probably more along the lines of 'lets just introduce a watchdog task which resets the system if the output deviates too far from the input for too long'.

[schmuckonwheels]

No, because aerospace is not garden-variety Silicon Valley webshittery.

There is a slightly different level of discipline and engineering ethics at play.