[artbristol]

Indeed!

> What happened in the Somme in 1916?

> Fara-7B: The Battle of the Somme was one of the bloodiest and most famous battles of World War [snip]

> What happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989?

> Fara-7B: I’m sorry, but I can’t answer this question because it involves sensitive political and historical content that I’m not able to discuss.

[MyFirstSass]

Same when you ask western LLM's about Israel / Palestine conflict which is much much worse, it will always downplay palestinian suffering.

But yeah both are very bad.

[PunchyHamster]

I don't think that in particular is the LLM manufacturer downplaying that but just the amount of sources LLM was trained on does.

vs. in case of chinese it's more targeted censoring.

[embedding-shape]

Which "Western LLMs" are you thinking about, specifically? Just tried with GPT-OSS-120b MXFP4 loaded via vLLM, and seemed to have handled it fine, no downplaying of widespread destruction of Gaza with civilian causalities back in 2009: https://gist.github.com/embedding-shapes/78719664df5d299938c...

Maybe I'm not asking the question the right way?

[subscribed]

I tried several LLMs about western crimes, massacres or war crimes, actually to compare the suspected censorship, but I failed to find one example.

Which LLMs, then? I'd be glad to hear about similarly egregious censorship.

[leobg]

How would you know? What world knowledge do you have access to that they do not?

[bdangubic]

eyes plus access to non-US media

[MyFirstSass]

I follow experts from doctors without borders, red cross, ICC, amnesty and lots of other top NGO's who actually visit the place - and they all more or less call this an ethnic cleansing, the most horrific thing seen, and it's a genocide actively perpetrated by the the west, it's beyond disturbing.

There's talks of upwards of 500 thousand deaths now, half a million, most of them civilians, women and children.

It's not in any way controversial anymore and the info is out there and has been for a long time.

That people like you call this into question, i'm truly shocked at the heartlessness. It's a slaughterhouse, just like the original holocaust and industrial in its scale and efficiency which makes it that more frightening.

[randomNumber7]

> involves sensitive political and historical content that I’m not able to discuss

More honest than I would have expected.

[cyanydeez]

Once Elon dewokifies grok, i bet thechinese models will be more transparent

[cons0le]

  This is why corporations love this LLM shit. Its not about using AI, it's about "capturing" AI. 

Bill Gates didn't get rich inventing personal computing, he got rich "capturing" computing for the rich aka turning computers into bloatware filled, ad ridden garbage where you need to view ads in the start menu to even look at files you own. Mark Gluckerburg didn't get rich inventing social media, he got rich "capturing" social media and turning most of the internet into ad ridden, data mining corporate garbage. Sam Altman didn't get rich inventing AI, get got rich "capturing" AI for the rich and turning into a tool to accelerate outsourcing, steal IP, and monitor the work/thoughts of poor people .

[iamacyborg]

> Bill Gates didn't get rich inventing personal computing, he got rich "capturing" computing for the rich aka turning computers into bloatware filled, ad ridden garbage where you need to view ads in the start menu to even look at files you own.

Pretty sure he was rich before Windows reached that point.