[RamblingCTO]

That's a pity:

> Penpot Desktop loads the Penpot web application like a browser does. For offline use, the built-in local instance creator can set up and run a local Penpot instance via Docker (per the official self‑hosting guide).

[seu]

Came here to complain about the same. I downloaded the app, but it needs an online account. What's the whole purpose of making it open source and downloadable, if it doesn't work offline?

[Mashimo]

The self hosted version needs an account outside your network?

[WillAdams]

Apparently.

I'm stuck at waiting for a confirmation e-mail.

[noahjk]

    PENPOT_FLAGS=disable-email-verification

[WillAdams]

Which file needs that?

[viraptor]

That sounds like an environment variable to set when you start it.

[franga2000]

> built-in local instance creator

[RamblingCTO]

Yes, and? I quoted that part. But why do I want a full backend stack running via docker on my machine for this? That sucks.

[franga2000]

What exactly sucks about it? If it's integrated well enough, why do you care? If anything, it's nice to know it's sandboxed by default.

The installer could pull the images, create the stack and run migrations, then shut down. The app could then up the stack, show a loading screen that would likely be shorter than any Adobe program, then open a webview. When the last window is closed, down the stack.

You wouldn't be able to tell the difference. And what is the difference exactly? Most big apps are composed of multiple components doing IPC, it just so happens to be TCP/IP here.

[RamblingCTO]

Not sure if your serious? I don't want a fucking SaaS stack running on my macbook for a small graphics tool? It's about the resource, the power, the battery, the heat, the CPU I care about. I don't want that.

[franga2000]

What SaaS stack? The backend and frontend are just doing their job, so they're about as heavy as they would be if it was, let's say, an electron app, and the only other services are minio (a glorified web server) and Postgres, which a "normal" app would probably replace with sqlite and save a hundred or two megabytes of RAM. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if using Postgres was more resource efficient than having your engineers come up with a custom ad-hoc datastore.

All in all, the overhead would probably be equal to two tabs in Chrome.

And calling it a "small graphics tool" is just nonsense. If you're doing UI/UX design, this is THE thing you spend your time in. It's like Premiere for a video editor or AutoCAD for an engineer. If it takes 30 seconds to load and eats half your system memory, who cares, it's what you bought the computer for.

Besides a specific subset of programmers that only use Vim or Emacs, every other professional is used to giving whatever tool they're using to do their job all the resources their computer has. You don't see video editors complaining Davinci Resolve runs a whole PostgreSQL instance in the background.