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by picafrost 204 days ago
That's a weird take-away from the post, where the only time ICE is mentioned is

> Putting aside GitHub’s relationship with ICE,

and the rest of the article provides technical reasons.

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I feel like that's the whole point of the OP. I agree with the overall post but mentioning the ICE relationship seems to detract from the main point.

"I hate GitHub because X Y and Z features are bad" is a good reason to move away; "I hate GitHub because one of their thousands of enterprise customers does not align with my political views" is not, in my opinion.

For the record, I do not support ICE

People protesting ICE do not do so out of political concern, but humanitarian concern.

This seems like a minor nitpick as those two are intimately tangled up, but it matters to make the distinction. Standing up for others is not petty or self-serving and that's exactly what this sort of conflation can falsely imply.

Just because people have a revolutionary fetish and fantasize about being the ones to stop Hitler in 1933 (they would not have) does not make their delusions a reality. These dorks make anti-establishment vibes so lame. Just because you say something doesn’t make it real.
You should've met the nice boys from ice here in Chicago, I'm sure they'd have treated you real well
It's virtue signaling plain and simple. People who crafted their identities around the current thing in ~2017 are religiously attached to having to be part of the in group and can't let it go, and it inevitably bubbles up like this.

This will no doubt rankle those who align with that group, but they are a pathetic remnant of a terrible period of rampant sociopathy.

Though you will no doubt assume you're getting downvoted because you're speaking truth to sociopaths, I just wanted to say I'm downvoting you because your comment violates multiple HN guidelines. Reminder, those are here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

It's disappointing to see such a long-term community member engage so thoughtlessly. I know the guidelines also say I should just flag and move on, but this will only reenforce your narrative, and I am hoping to break the cycle.

Thank you for your service /s
Some of us witnessed ICE agents' rampant sociopathy with our own eyes. You could too if you wanted to.
Politics in the US is so extremely binarized these days that I think it’s hard to assign motive for political issues beyond “my friends say that our team feels this way.” Which I would argue is much more political than anything fundamental.
I read it as "this was a big news story which we care about. You may know it, but it is not the primary reason. Here is the primary reason."
That's why the article put that reason aside
It could have done an even better job of putting it aside by not even mentioning it at all.

Instead we're all sitting here talking about it instead of the technical reasons.

so far we know of 1 branch, in 1 thread, on the entire internet, "talking about it instead"
If they had not mentioned github's association with ICE, then we'd be in a situation where everyone would be questioning whether or not the relationship had anything to do with the decision.
Which is totally fine
they saw an opportunity for bait and you took it
It does signal/imply that even if GitHub fixed every technical grievance tomorrow, Zig might still not come back.
>and the rest of the article provides technical reasons

The post ends with an indictment of capitalism.