[Workaccount2]

I'm pretty sure we are in an apple vs android situation, where you give lifetime apple users an android phone, and after a day they report that android is horrid. In reality, they just aren't used to how stuff is done on android.

I think many devs are just in tune with the "nature" of Claude, and run aground easier when trying to use gemini or Chatgpt. This also explains why we get these perplexing mixed signals from different devs.

[harles]

There are some clear objective signals that aren’t just user preference. I shelled out the $250 for Gemini’s top tier and am profoundly disappointed. I had forgotten that loops were still a thing. I’ve hit this multiple times in Gemini CLI, and in different projects. It gets stuck in a loop (as in the exact same, usually nonsense, message over and over) and the automated loop detection stops the whole operation. It also stops in the middle of an operation very frequently. I don’t hit either of these in Claude Code or Codex.

There certainly is some user preference, but the deal breakers are flat out shortcomings that other tools solved (in AI terms) long ago. I haven’t dealt with agent loops since March with any other tool.

[roegerle]

have you received your money's worth in other products?

[harles]

Deep Think is TBD. Maybe. So far I like it better than GPT 5.1 Pro, but that came after the initial purchase. I likely won’t renew at this tier.