[seu]

> Progress is progress, and has always changed things. Its funny that apparently, "progressive" left-leaning people are actually so conservative at the core.

I am surprised (and also kind of not) to see this lack of critical reflection on HN of all places.

Saying "progress is progress" serves nobody, except those who drive "progress" in directions that benefits them. All you do by saying "has always changed things" is taking "change" at face value, assuming it's something completely out of your control, and to be accepted without any questioning it's source, it's ways or its effects.

> So far, in my book, the advancements in the last 100 or even more years have mostly always brought us things I wouldn't want to miss these days. But maybe some people would be happier to go back to the dark ages...

Amazing depiction of extremes as the only possible outcomes. Either take everything that is thrown at us, or go back into a supposed "dark age" (which, BTW, is nowadays understood to not have been that "dark" at all) . This, again, doesn't help have a proper discussion about the effects of technology and how it comes to be the way it is.

[bluefirebrand]

> I am surprised (and also kind of not) to see this lack of critical reflection on HN of all places

I'm not surprised at all anymore.

I constantly feel like the majority of voices on this site are in favor of maximizing their own lives no matter the cost to everyone else. After all, that's the ethos that is dominating the tech industry these days

I know I'm bitter. All I ever wanted was to hang out with cool people working on cool stuff. Where's that website these days? It sure isn't this one

[Glemkloksdjf]

Dark age was dark. Human rights, female! rights, hunger, thirst, no progress at all, hard lifes.

So are you able, realisticly, to stop progress around a whole planet? Tbh. getting an alignment across the planet to slow down or stop AI would be the equivilent of stoping capitalism and actually building a holistic planet for us.

I think ai will force the hand of capitalism but i don't think we will be able to create a star trek universe without getting forced

[trashb]

> Dark age was dark. Human rights, female! rights, hunger, thirst, no progress at all, hard lifes.

There was progress in the Middle Ages, hence the difference between the early and late Middle Ages. Most information was mouth to mouth instead of written down.

"The term employs traditional light-versus-darkness imagery to contrast the era's supposed darkness (ignorance and error) with earlier and later periods of light (knowledge and understanding)."

"Others, however, have used the term to denote the relative scarcity of written records regarding at least the early part of the Middle Ages"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)

[Glemkloksdjf]

We talk about dark ages probalby in a different way.

I talk about a time were we had no proper female rights. Females can only vote around the globe since 1893 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage)

A refrigerator was only common in 1913.

Before all of that, we spend a LOT of time on just surviving.