[fragmede]

Yeah, Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco and had a US passport, but he grew up in Hong Kong. Point is, Chinese diaspora exists and can be seen for those who want to look. Projecting a viewpoint that no one knows about China or Chinese people because you don't want to think they do, so you feel slighted, and can then rage against that; it just seems kind of hollow to me.

[yen223]

I was hoping to talk more about (Mainland) China being uniquely bad at exporting pop culture, especially when compared to the success of Hong Kong, and to a lesser extent, Taiwanese pop culture.

The fact that nearly all celebs you mentioned were famous from HK film seems to at least confirm that.

[fragmede]

I was going off of

> Like how many of you can name a Chinese movie or pop star or TV show?

and wanted to say that Chinese people exist to westerners. You're totally right that China specifically doesn't export well for whatever reason.