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by aucisson_masque 212 days ago
> Taking Zepbound definitely reshaped my perception of obesity though, compared to Keto which required constant, intense self-enforced discipline avoiding 4/5 of any menu, being on a GLP1-a and able to eat what everyone else is eating but just stop and not feel hunger pains or cravings convinced me the attitude of "fat=lacking discipline" is antiquated and ignores real variance in how different people experience hunger/satiation.

Well I always assumed that people are fat because they are eating too much...of the wrong thing.

I lost 10kg not long ago, 20 lbs in American, and never ever i did feel hungry. Quite the opposite, i would be stuffed to the nose on fruits, vegetables and meats.

And believe me when I tell you I ate like an ogre.

I challenge anyone to actually gain weight on eating only vegetable fruits and meat. After losing these 10kg, I tried to gain 15kg of muscle and overeat on this regime to the point to want to vomit, couldn't gain weight. When I added fat and cereals, weight increased so fast I had to slow down.

With the average caloric expenditure being 2200 kcal for a normal healthy man, not even doing sport, the average vegetable being 300 kcal per kg, it means you would have to eat 7.3kg (16lbs) of vegetable per day.

I don't know you personally but I can safely say that you can't eat 16 lbs of vegetable per day, or 5lbs per meal. It's physically impossible.

So yeah I guess that how people experience hunger/starvation could play a role, but it's not the full story.