[zanellato19]

Nonsense. I know and talk to multiple Engineers all the time and they all envy our position of continuing to fix issues in the project.

Mechanical engineers having to work around other component failures all the time because their lead time is gigantic and no matter how much planning they do, failures still pop-up.

The idea that Software Engineering has more bugs is absurd. Electronic engineers, mechanical, electric, all face similar issues to what we face and normally don't have the capacity to deploy fixes as fast as we do because of real world constraints.

[nofunsir]

Not nonsense. Don't be reductive.

[zanellato19]

I think you are being reductive on your original comment. The idea of cycling planning and implementation is nothing new, and quite used on the other disciplines. Saying that agile is the problem is misguided and pointing to other engineering disciplines for "they do it better" is usually a sign that you don't talk to those engineers.

Of course we can plan things better, but implementation does inform planning and vice versa and denying that is denying reality.

[nofunsir]

I don't think this is productive, since you're so adamant [1] that "big C memory safe programs don't exist." I know for a fact they do. Most of the software you won't ever see. What do you think powers the most critical sytems in, say a fifth gen fighter, or the software that NSA relies on in their routers?

I'll give you a hint. It's neither rust- nor scrum-based. I'd rather change careers or retire than work another day doing scrum standups.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45353150