[anthonypasq]

i think its incredibly difficult for a male to truly become a man without children. it is very easy and seductive to be a manchild forever, whereas society seems to force women to grow up. And its certainly possible for a father to remain a manchild, but i think without that kind of responsibility and focus of having to mentor and keep another human alive its difficult to fully mature.

edit: I am a man

[inanutshellus]

I don't think it's as-different-as-it-used-to-be for men and women now but I agree with the sentiment.

Becoming an engaged father shifted my perspective on who I am, changed opinions on societal matters, and made me feel like the person I was -- despite, from a young age, spending non-trivial amounts of time on contemplating morality and society and considering myself as a youth to be "mature for my age" -- was a selfish git.

I went from "c'mon what's the harm"-ing naysayers to "HEY think big picture! LONG term!" on SO many aspects of life.

The man I was would not get along with the father I am.

Your statement won't be popular, but I agree that, statistically-speaking, it's an overt intellectual "next stage".

[Gooblebrai]

Can you clarify what does it mean to "become a man"?

[potato3732842]

Seriously can't tell if this is satire.

[aprilthird2021]

I don't think it's satire. It makes some kind of sense even if I don't agree with it

[mebizzle]

This has to be satire right?

You don't need to have kids to nut up and take responsibility for yourself and others.

[anthonypasq]

notice how I didn't say that