[StopDisinfo910]

That’s absolutely not about backdoors and I fail to see how it concerns GrapheneOS.

This law says a judge can compel a key owner to decrypt something as part of an investigation.

This doesn’t in any way creating backdoor in encryption setup nor does it cover developer of encrypted system.

Did you go fishing for any law supporting your point and hoped that brandishing one which looked vaguely similar to what you were looking for would work? Because it sure looks like you did.

[goku12]

What exactly are you trying to prove here? Preemptive precautionary measures are definitely warranted in case of projects like these if the authorities demonstrate any sort of hostilities - especially from one with prior history of taking such actions.

Unlike the laws of physics, human laws encompass deliberate ambiguity meant for them to be escaped (with loopholes) or to be stretched as far as possible, without raising any alarms at the time of instituting them. The main purpose of the courts is to interpret the laws somewhat consistently in the face of such ambiguities. I can easily see how this particular law can be interpreted liberally enough to mandate backdoors. Your pedantic interpretation is not something they are going to care about or abide by. In the worst case, they'll just take the 'shoot first, ask later' approach. They'll just do what they like an then try to justify their actions when challenged. This has been the norm with even non-authoritarian administrations for ages. But the entire EU has been demonstrably gravitating towards this dystopian reality with their attempted chat control law.

Do you want the Graphene team to ignore any such possibilities and just stay put? In which world does that make any sense? And what's your point in brushing aside practically everyone else's concerns?

[StopDisinfo910]

> What exactly are you trying to prove here? Preemptive precautionary measures are definitely warranted in case of projects like these if the authorities demonstrate any sort of hostilities - especially from one with prior history of taking such actions.

It's pretty obvious from the start what I'm saying.

GrapheneOS is saying France is threating them and wanting a backdoor in the OS. This is absolutely not the case. A couple of articles talking about your project in far right newspapers one antidrug investigator saying they will indict the project if there is a link with organised crime is not at all the same thing that being threatened by a country, let alone being act to compromise your product when there is zero legal basis for anyone in France to do so.

> Unlike the laws of physics, human laws encompass deliberate ambiguity meant for them to be escaped (with loopholes) or to be stretched as far as possible, without raising any alarms at the time of instituting them. The main purpose of the courts is to interpret the laws somewhat consistently in the face of such ambiguities. I can easily see how this particular law can be interpreted liberally enough to mandate backdoors. Your pedantic interpretation is not something they are going to care about or abide by.

There is no loophole nor pedantic interpretation here. France has no law compeling software developers to add backdoor to their product period. Quoting another unrelated law doesn't change this fact.

> This has been the norm with even non-authoritarian administrations for ages. But the entire EU has been demonstrably gravitating towards this dystopian reality with their attempted chat control law.

You are arguing in the same sentence that Europe is untruthworthy because they are trying to pass a law allowing chat interception and that law actually doesn't matter. So what is it? The truth is France respects its own laws and there are currently no law allowing backdooring. The reality of the evolving European regulation is a separate issue entirely.

> Do you want the Graphene team to ignore any such possibilities and just stay put? In which world does that make any sense? And what's your point in brushing aside practically everyone else's concerns?

GrapheneOS is free to do whatever they want. I'm free to point out that their current scare mongering regarding France is baseless.