[dragonwriter]

> Women do not generally want men to stay at home and take care of kids. Women also demand that men make more money than themselves. For women, the period between the kids being born and going to school full-time is like a kind of sabbatical.

Domestic labor and being primary caregiver for children is not, in any way, like a sabbatical.

[wakawaka28]

It actually is like a sabbatical, especially with all the modern conveniences of appliances and cars. When I hear women whine about domestic labor I have to mention that single men and women do practically the same labor, for themselves alone, and washing clothes or cooking is much easier to do for multiple people than for one person. It isn't 3x as much work to keep house for 3+ people as it is to keep house for 1. Women who stay home for kids invariably watch lots of TV and maybe do three hours of actual recognizable work per day max. I'm sure there are some who insist on maxing out everything they do, cooking fancy meals and doing elaborate activities that they truly hate for the sake of the kids, but this seems rare.

Kids can be annoying, but they can also be a lot of fun. Having the luxury of being able to spend months on end with them, without worrying about money, is a luxury that unfortunately is on the decline. But it is still more attainable that most realize.

[dragonwriter]

> When I hear women whine about domestic labor I have to mention that single men and women do practically the same labor, for themselves alone, and washing clothes or cooking is much easier to do for multiple people than for one person.

That last part is very much not true, perhaps especially when children are involved.

> Women who stay home for kids invariably watch lots of TV and maybe do three hours of actual recognizable work per day max.

Maybe if you are very bad at recognizing work.

> without worrying about money

Not earning money in outside labor is not the same as not worrying about, and managing, money.

[danorama]

“Women who stay home for kids invariably watch lots of TV and maybe do three hours of actual recognizable work per day max”

As a parent, I believe I speak for many when I say [citation needed].

[wakawaka28]

I don't have a citation but I have eyes and I see how real parents in my life have gotten by. Besides, even if it is somehow more work than 3 hours per day, it is probably close to that amount and far more enjoyable than most jobs. If you count sitting around watching your own kids play as "work" that demands "compensation", I feel bad for you.

[n4r9]

Wait, do you have kids yourself? Childcare days with my 2yo are much more draining than most work days. It's never a case of just sitting and watching.