[HugoDias]

TIL! I'll finally give Claude Code a try. I've been using Cursor since it launched and never tried anything else. The terminal UI didn't appeal to me, but knowing it has better performance, I'll check it out.

Cursor has been a terrible experience lately, regardless of the model. Sometimes for the same task, I need to try with Sonnet 4.5, ChatGPT 5.1 Codex, Gemini Pro 3... and most times, none managed to do the work, and I end up doing it myself.

At least I’m coding more again, lol

[idonotknowwhy]

Glad you mentioned "Cursor has been a terrible experience lately", as I was planning to finally give it a try. I'd heard it has the best auto-complete, which I don't get use VSCode with Claude Code in the terminal.

[alphabettsy]

You should still give it a try. Can’t speak for their experience, but doesn’t ring true for me.

[baq]

+1, it had a bad period when they were hyperscaling up, but IME they've found their pace (very) recently - I almost ditched cursor in the summer, but am a quite happy user now.

[PrayagS]

I haven’t used Cursor since I use Neovim and it’s hard to move out.

The auto-complete suggestions from FIM models (either open source or even something Gemini Flash) punch far above their weight. That combined with CC/Codex has been a good setup for me.

[fabbbbb]

I get the same impression. Even GPT 5.1 Codex is just sooo slow in Cursor. Claude Code with Sonnet is still the benchmkar. Fast and good.

[Huppie]

I was evaluating codex vs claude code the past month and GPT 5.1 codex being slow is just the default experience I had with it.

The answers were mostly on par (though different in style which took some getting used to) but the speed was a big downer for me. I really wanted to give it an honest try but went back to Claude Code within two weeks.

[firloop]

You can install the Claude Code VS Code extension in Cursor and you get a similar AI side pane as the main Cursor composer.

[adastra22]

That’s just Claude Code then. Why use cursor?

[dcre]

People like the tab completion model in Cursor.

[BoorishBears]

And they killed Supermaven.

I've actually been working on porting the tab completion from Cursor to Zed, and eventually IntelliJ, for fun

It shows exactly why their tab completion is so much better than everyone else's though: it's practically a state machine that's getting updated with diffs on every change and every file you're working with.

(also a bit of a privacy nightmare if you care about that though)

[fragmede]

it's not about the terminal, but about decoupling yourself from looking at the code. The Claude app lets you interact with a github repo from your phone.

[verdverm]

This is not the way

these agents are not up to the task of writing production level code at any meaningful scale

looking forward to high paying gigs to go in and clean up after people take them too far and the hype cycle fades

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I recommend the opposite, work on custom agents so you have a better understanding of how these things work and fail. Get deep in the code to understand how context and values flow and get presented within the system.

[alwillis]

> these agents are not up to the task of writing production level code at any meaningful scale

This is obviously not true, starting with the AI companies themselves.

It's like the old saying "half of all advertising doesn't work; we just don't which half that is." Some organizations are having great results, while some are not. From the multiple dev podcasts I've listened to by AI skeptics have had a lightbulb moment where they get AI is where everything is headed.

[verdverm]

Not a skeptic, I use AI for coding daily and am working on a custom agent setup because, through my experience for more than a year, they are not up to hard tasks.

This is well known I thought, as even the people who build the AIs we use talk about this and acknowledge their limitations.

[comp_throw7]

I'm pretty sure at this point more than half of Anthropic's new production code is LLM-written. That seems incompatible with "these agents are not up to the task of writing production level code at any meaningful scale".

[verdverm]

how are you pretty sure? What are you basing that on?

If true, could this explain why Anthropics APIs are less reliable than Gemini's? (I've never gotten a service overloaded response from Google like I did from Anthropic)

[raxxorraxor]

You cannot clean up the code, it is too verbose. That said, you can produce production ready code with AI, you just need to put up very strong boundaries and not let it get too creative.

Also, the quality of production ready code is often highly exaggerated.

[verdverm]

I have AI generated, production quality code running, but it was isolated, not at scale or broad in view / spanning many files or systems

What I mean more is that as soon as the task becomes even moderately sized, these things fail hard

[fragmede]

> these agents are not up to the task of writing production level code at any meaningful scale

I think the new one is. I could be the fool and be proven wrong though.

[verdverm]

It's marginally better, no where close to game changing, which I agree will require moving beyond transformers to something we don't know yet

[bilsbie]

Interesting. Tell me more.

[fragmede]

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/claude-by-anthropic/id64737536...

Has a section for code. You link it to your GitHub, and it will generate code for you when you get on the bus so there's stuff for you to review after you get to the office.

[bilsbie]

Thanks. Still looking for some kind of total code by phone thing.

[delaminator]

The app version is iPhone only, you don’t get Code in the Android app, you have to use a web browser.

I use it every day. I’ll write the spec in conversation with the chatbot, refining ideas, saying “is it possible to …?” Get it to create detailed planning and spec documents (and a summary document about the documents). Upload them to Github and then tell Code to make the project.

I have never written any Rust, am not an evangelist, but Code says it finds the error messages super helpful so I get it to one shot projects in that.

I do all this in the evenings while watching TV with my gf.

It amuses me we have people even this thread claiming what it already does is something it can’t do - write working code that does what is supposed to.

I get to spend my time thinking of what to create instead of the minutiae of “ok, I just need 100 more methods, keep going”. And I’ve been coding since the 1980 so don’t think I’m just here for the vibes.

[fragmede]

take a look at https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bitrig/id6747835910

[bilsbie]

Can you run the apps without going through Apple? Do you need a developer account?