[gcbirzan]

I mean, Durov has been trying to push for Russian puppets to get elected in Romanian and Moldovan elections, by pushing to everyone (at least in Romania, he might've just posted on twitter for Moldova) that the French government is trying to interfere in the Romanian elections. I mean, it turns out, Russia was, on behalf of the candidate he was talking about... so take from that what you will.

Oh, yeah, and he calls himself DuRove now. Hats off for that one, but I hope he rots in prison for advancing the Russian agenda.

[kome]

I mean, sorry, but the EU essentially installed puppets in both Romania and Moldova, what are we even talking about here?

[gcbirzan]

I'm sure you're very familiar with the politics of both countries, but tell me...

How is Nicusor Dan a puppet of the EU? More than Calin Georgescu? The guy who actively tried to stage a coup? More than George Simion? Granted, there's no PROOF he's a Russian puppet, but he's a far right twat that has views friendly to Russia.

How is Maia Sandu and PES a puppet of the EU? And... let's look at BEP. Voronin, Russia friendly ex President, he was very against Moldova trying to get closer to the West. And Dodon? The guy who is being indicted for treason, who's a friend of Plahotniuc (he stole 1 billion dollars from banks and fled the country)? Yeah, sure, puppets of the EU, vs corrupt fucking puppets of Russia.

I know it's easy to look at this stuff from the outside and say, oh, yeah, the EU is interfering in elections, but there's a lot of history here that you obviously don't have. I like Maia Sandu more than Nicusor Dan (his positions on gay rights were disgusting a while back, he now just stopped talking about them), but compared to the obviousness of the Russian support for their opposition, I think the fact that the EU supports them is just insignificant.

[cherryteastain]

Remember when they just annulled an election when they did not like the result?

[gcbirzan]

I don't. I do remember when they were annulled after Russian interference and there were other fundamental issue with the first first round and Georgescu's campaign that broke the law.

[fzorb]

The election integrity in question:

[qcnguy]

> I know it's easy to look at this stuff from the outside and say, oh, yeah, the EU is interfering in elections, but there's a lot of history here

There being "history" is not a valid excuse for openly manipulating elections.

Especially not as the EU Commission throws around unproven allegations of the very same all the time.

[gcbirzan]

When I say history, I mean more than just the decision, which might look like "oh, they didn't like the results", but also the events that lead up to it, the campaign. I'm not even going to go into the coup d'etat he attempted after the elections with a group of far right mercenaries, or the things that came out about the campaign and Georgescu that weren't known at the time (which, obviously, couldn't have been a factor, but confirm that this was the right decision).

I'm not sure what the accusations you're talking about are