[IanCal]

This is a good point.

Docker? I typically want other kinds of isolation for services and things anyway - it’s got its own file system, you could have N versions on the same branch working without conflict (at least the conflict you’d have with work trees).

There is some more plumbing involved but…not much?

Edit - task boards are my first thought for the comms side for agents sharing info.

[plutonium3345]

Yeah, I think as agents become more capable, more isolation will be necessary. Hence, I also agree that either containers or VMs will eventually be required. We can see how tools like Cursor already have a built-in browser so that the agent can "see" (probably as text for now) what component you want to modify. In the future, I believe the workflow for an agent will be something like: [make changes] -> [get user input] -> [take a screenshot] -> [process the screenshot and user input] -> [make changes].

I doubt something like this can be implemented easily in a single environment without running into client and server port issues, etc.

[ttoinou]

Docker is very heavy and more for Linux, I'm on macOS and Windows for desktop software development and can't put my software to test inside Docker. But yeah I could have sandboxes inside macOS and inside Windows (virtualization, VMs, WSL etc.), I'd still need one main orchestrating agent + GUI to rule them all

[netcoyote]

Here are a couple of (open-source Apache license) projects I wrote to sandbox on Mac, which I use to run my agents, while still being able to build/run macOS apps:

Limited user account: https://github.com/webcoyote/sandvault

Virtual machine: https://github.com/webcoyote/clodpod

[chrisweekly]

Not 100% sure it will solve your complaints about Docker, but https://OrbStack.com makes working w/ docker, docker-compose, linux vms, and k8s so much better.

[mbreese]

I’m pretty sure they were referring to building macOS or Windows desktop programs, which Docker doesn’t help with.