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by chris_wot 216 days ago
If they consider the country is making laws they can't accept, then the honourable thing is to no longer allow participation within that country.
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The honourable thing?

More importantly this is the smart choice, the only thing, to do: Shake the dust from your sandals, walk away, don't look back.

This is the ongoing horror of the overbearing state, which wants to rule efficiently by knowing everything that everybody is doing all the time. Those who focus on and value law enforcement before freedom.

> This

What? What is the French state doing in this case?

Owners of those newspapers are or were politicians. I would call that a politically motivated action against GrapheneOS.
That doesn't follow: It's not their only motivation, nor are the author and editor drones who follow this one motivation.

People can write politically motivated things on HN too. That is very different than a law enforcement action of the government.

Then the law enforcement knocks the door it's already too late. Those articles is the intimidation tactics for now.

> People can write politically motivated things on HN too.

Sure, and that would be a problem if that was 1) targeted and 2) originated from the people with connections.

Do you have evidence of this conspiracy between these French newspaper owners, editors, and writers, and the French government?
Why would they want to stop French citizens from using their creation?
Because they would be violating the laws of another country. The fastest way to prevent this is to prevent access from France. The same way it is being done with the UK.
I'm probably breaking some law of North Korea every couple of weeks and I don't give a fuck.

A foreign country can only threaten you if you depend on revenue from this country, or plan to go there. In theory one can even pull of a project like GrapheneOS completely anonymously (assuming you're in a proper free speech jurisdiction that won't rat you out), so people behind it can still travel freely.

French citizens deserve privacy no less than anyone else.

That makes it very easy for any government or anyone with a little power - like influence over what a newspaper publishes - to shut down GrapheneOS. You don't need any law enforcement, law, process, etc. - GrapheneOS will shut down itself at a hint of criticism.
Not really. If GrapheneOS feels they will be prosecuted in a particular country, then they don’t need to allow participation in that country. It’s their choose and right to do so.

They have no obligation to do otherwise. - ~~~~

I didn't talk about obligation; I don't understand your objection ?
I’m not following your objection either.