[dzonga]

if they was something to learn it was for the Ruby community to learn from the PHP community on how to reinvent itself.

PHP like Ruby had some big companies built on it - Facebook: PHP, Ruby: Github/Shopify

PHP was able to swallow Hack and become PHP8 - they optimized for getting beginners into the language / ecosystem

Ruby while a beautiful / friendly language and ecosystem - got into political wars - didn't optimize for beginners on windows etc

even as a person who favors Rails - Laravel is ahead -> on documentation & bringing various ways to do things into the framework. There's no stick with Hotwire. You wanna do livewire go ahead, we will help you. You wanna do Inertia + JS - go ahead we will help you.