[ants_everywhere]

It seems like they should add lidar or radar.

What is the argument for deliberately impoverishing the Tesla sensory input?

[steveBK123]

And Tesla pumps don't even realize how poor the camera specs are on Tesla's for their "we don't need lidar/radar, all we need is vision" strategy.

Front camera is sub-4K, the rest of the cameras are 1440p.. all of which are processed at 24fps. We are talking 10 year old iPhone specs here.

[Veserv]

The cameras actually do not even meet minimum vision requirements required to hold a license in California and most other states.

Here is one of my posts with a detailed breakdown and analysis: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43605034

[steveBK123]

It's fascinating that FSD is driving real cars on public roads with FPS that most gamers would disdain. It's only a couple tons of moving metal, would could go wrong?

[cj]

There was a time when saying this on HN would have gotten you downvoted into oblivion. People felt extremely strongly that everything should be possible with cameras.

I wonder if that sentiment is changing.

[ants_everywhere]

Even if one believes everything should be possible with cameras, the goal posts are moving. Other automated vehicles use radar or lidar. Even if Tesla achieves fatality levels comparable with human drivers, other vehicles will outperform them. There's not going to be a great market for the most fatal automatic vehicle. It makes more sense to chase state of the art rather than the state of the median human.