[jeswin]

This has already been discussed so many times. No good discussion will come out of this - and it'll just be people moping.

There's much better content on Show HN, one of which won't hit the homepage because this has more votes. It's a problem that HN has to fix - people upvote because they agree, and that vote carries the same weight as another which required far more effort (trying a product, looking at code etc).