[wongarsu]

Don't we say that about all supplier relationships? If my Samsung washing machine stops working I blame Samsung. Even when it turns out that it was a broken drive belt I don't blame the manufacturer of the drive belt, or whoever produced the rubber that went into the drive belt, or whoever made the machine involved in the production of this batch of rubber. Samsung choose to put the drive belt in my washing machine, that's where the buck stops. They are free to litigate the matter internally, but I only care about Samsung selling me a washing machine that's now broken

Same with cloudflare. If you run your site on cloudflare you are responsible for any downtime caused to your site by cloudflare

What we can blame cloudflare for is having so many customers that a cloudflare outage has outsized impact compared to the more uncorrelated outages we would have if sites were distributed among many smaller providers. But that's not quite the same as blaming any individual site being down on cloudflare

[raincole]

> Don't we say that about all supplier relationships?

No always. If the farm sells packs of poisoned bacon to the supermarket, we blame the farm.

It's more about if the website/supermarket can reasonably do the QA.