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by __MatrixMan__ 215 days ago
This escalator is temporarily stairs, sorry for the convenience.
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Tbh, I personally don't trust a stopped escalator. Some of the videos of brake failures on them scared me off of ever going on them.
You've ruined something for me. My adult side is grateful but the rest of me is throwing a tantrum right now. I hope you're happy with what you've done.
I read a book about elevators accidents; don't.
With people properly using them or not?

I am fairly certain that the vast majority comes from improper use (bypassing security measures, like riding on top of the cabin) or something going wrong during maintenance.

elevators accidents or escalator accidents?
elevators. for escalators, make sure not to watch videos of people falling in "the hole".
I am genuinly sorry about that. And no, I am not happy about what I've done.
Not really comparable at any compliance or security oriented business. You can't just zip the thing up and sftp it over to the server. All the zany supply chain security stuff needs to happen in CI and not be done by a human or we fail our dozens of audits
While true, the mistake we made was to centralize them. Just imagine the case if git was a centralized software with millions of users connecting over a single domain? I don't care how much easier it would be, or how flashy it would be, I prefer much to struggle with the current incarnation rather than deal with headaches like these. Sadly, the progress towards decentralized alternatives for discussions, issue tracking, patch sharing and CI is rather slow (though they all do exist) due to the fact that the no big investor invests in them.
Why is it that we trust those zany processes more than each other again? Seems like a good place to inject vulnerabilities to me...
Hi! My name is Jia Tan. Here's a nice binary that I compiled for you!
This isn't really a trust issue. People tend to take shortcuts and commit serious mistakes in the process. Humans are incredibly creative (no, LLMs are nowhere close). But for that, we need the freedom to make mistakes without serious consequences. Automation exists to take away the fatigue of trying to not commit mistakes.
I'm not against automation at all. But if all of the devs build it and get one hash and CI runs it through some gauntlet involving a bunch of third party software that I don't have any reason to trust and out pops an artifact with a different hash, then the CI has interfered with the chain of trust between myself and my user.

Maybe I've just been unlucky, but so far my experience with CI pipelines that have extra steps in them for compliance reasons is that they are full of actual security problems (like curl | bash, or like how you can poison a CircleCI cache using a branch nobody reviewed and pick up the poisoned dependency on a branch which was reviewed but didn't contain the poison).

Plus, it's a high value target with an elevated threat model. Far more likely to be attacked than each separate dev machine. Plus, a motivated user might build the software themselves out of paranoia, but they're unlikely to securely self host all the infra necessary to also run it through CI.

If we want it to be secure, the automation you're talking about needs to runnable as part of a local build with tightly controlled inputs and deterministic output, otherwise it breaks the chain of trust between user and developer by being a hop in the middle which is more about a pinky promise and less about something you can verify.