[ChrisMarshallNY]

> I think as a community we have a responsibility to do better than this.

I have always felt so, but my opinion is definitely in the minority.

In fact, I find that folks have extremely negative responses to any discussion of improving software Quality.

[mosura]

Merely reducing external dependencies causes people to come out in rashes.

A large proportion of “developers” enjoy build vs buy arguments far too much.

[abustamam]

I always see such negative responses when HN brings up software bloat ("why is your static site measured in megabytes").

Now that we have an abundance of compute and most people run devices more powerful than the devices that put man on the moon, it's easier than ever to make app bloat, especially when using a framework like Electron or React Native.

People take it personally when you say they write poor quality software, but it's not a personal attack, it's an observation of modern software practices.

And I'm guilty of this, mainly because I work for companies that prioritize speed of development over quality of software, and I suspect most developers are in this trap.

[ChrisMarshallNY]

What I find annoying, is people making fun of folks that choose to “roll their own.”

The typical argument that I see, is homemade encryption, which is quite valid.

However, encryption is just a tiny corner of the surface.

Most folks don’t want to haul in 1MB of junk, just so they can animate a transition.

Well, I guess I should qualify that: Most normal folks wouldn't want to do that, but, apparently, it's de rigueur for today's coders.

[abustamam]

I think we have a new normal now though. Most web devs starting now don't know a world without React/Vue/Solid/whatever. Like, sure you can roll your own HTML site with JS for interactivity, but employers now don't seem to care about that; if you don't know React then don't bother.