[antonvs]

> I think six dev teams is small in terms of kube.

I don't doubt it. By "larger" I just meant larger than something like "running my servers on FreeBSD/OpenBSD and jails or VMM respectively" above, which sounds like a one-person operation.

> I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s close to the perfect size to move onto kube and create and adopt a standard set of platform idioms.

My previous position was at a company about 5x the size, with many loosely related enterprise and government products that they sold into markets in at least 20 countries. They also used k8s quite effectively.

But, I think the key is that you mentioned "the kube team". Having a single team responsible for everything k8s-related at a large org is likely to make it difficult to be effective.

For supporting individual dev teams I think you need people on those teams who have at least some of the necessary knowledge, so they're not entirely dependent on a central team. Even a watered-down version of what devops was supposed to be about is better than nothing.