[Aeolun]

> Plus, the ops side has a lot of challenges that can really be a different beast compared to the application side.

That’s why we aim to call it DevOps, so that you can take all that into account from the start of the project?

[dangus]

In practice, I’ve never seen a “DevOps” or “SRE” team that wasn’t just Ops.

Almost every company works with the “throw stuff over the wall to DevOps” mentality. The word “DevOps” is meaningless.