[mindstab]

... and all the rails code of the world is better? How has the rails community gotten this "my shit don't smell" attitude? Like I said, the barrier to entry for ails is even lower, it stands to reason that there would be even more horrifying Rails code out there. Every language and framework is going to have horrifying code, I don't understand how you can ignore the Rails communities code while singling out PHPs

[ehutch79]

eh, i honestly always thought the rails community had a pretentious streak running through. can't defend them too much. same goes for python, and many other communities too.

there's a lot going on there. however i think most of what the post is talking about is how as a community grows it's cohesiveness wanes.