[rc5150]

Easy there cowboy, this isn't a 'safe space' argument, this is an argument for preference. You are more than welcome to gallivant around while publicly nude, while others are more than welcome to prefer not to. That's really the crux of it.

[Brian_K_White]

No, you tried to invoke trauma.

[rc5150]

So apparently trauma isn't something that can inform preference?

[Brian_K_White]

You can't say "just a preference" and at the same time say "trauma", no. That is trying to have it both ways.

[rc5150]

People who experience trauma can't have preferences. Got it.

[Brian_K_White]

If it's just a preference, then why mention the trauma at all? What bearing does it have, if not to try to give your "preference" the weight of a harm to justify getting your way when otherwise there would be no reason you should get your way?

"I can't control my reaction to someone else's body because trauma." has an awful lot in common with "I can't control my reaction to someone else's body because male biology."

This trauma argument is the same as dudes that claim breastfeeding is vulgar and intolerable because they just can't be expected to control themselves in the presense of an uncovered breast.

And of course, this is also not just a preference. It's an attempt to justify something by having a stronger argument than a mere preference, namely a trauma.

But let's just pretend you didn't try to wield trauma as a club. It's bad faith argument forgiveness day.

No few people have a "preference" that babies should not exist on planes or in restaurants because they don't like the sound of them crying or their smells.

All the men of whole countries have a preference that women just shouldn't exist anywhere out in public.

And of course the breastfeeding already mentioned.

I would call all of those invalid but hey I'm just a "cowboy".

[Brian_K_White]

Sure whatever you say. It doesn't matter what I actually said, you have so far decided to hear whatever you want. This is not communication, or sane.