[jitl]

imo if you are on a cloud like aws and using a config management system for mutable infra like puppet you are taking unnecessary complexity and living in the dark ages

> Generally speaking I think people need to be more comfortable with build packages for their operating system of choice and install applications that way. The it's mostly configuration that needs

why, it’s 2025, docker / container makes life so easy

[immibis]

because programmers should be able to use computers

[mlrtime]

No, they should be able to take business requirements and create performant reliable applications.

They should understand CS/CE core fundamentals but they don't need to know how to admin.

[immibis]

You might not make it your day job but you should definitely understand the fundamentals of how your whole stack works. Everything from transistors to eyeballs.

[jitl]

Your original suggestion didn’t sound didactic in nature. I did enough deploying Perl apps that way to consider it a huge waste of time. No thanks!

[immibis]

Automate it with a shell script