[carlosjobim]

> Are they using particular wordpress page setups and plugins that are common with SEO spammers?

Why doesn't Kagi go after these signals instead? Then you could easily catch a double digit percentage of slop and maybe over half of slop (AI generated or not), without having to do crowd sourcing and other complicated setups. It's right there in the code. The same with emojis in YouTube video titles.

[hananova]

You’re responding to the Kagi ML lead. They are using those signals in addition to crowd sourcing.

[carlosjobim]

Are you certain? I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, except for now. And lot's of SEO WordPress spam is still showing up in Kagi queries.

[VHRanger]

Yes, I'm the ML lead.

The current search engine doesn't go after WordPress plugins we consider correlated to bad pages.

By far the most efficient method in the search engine for spam is downranking by trackers/javascript weight/etc.

Slopstop is going after page formats but we didn't plan to scale that back to rankings for everyone quite yet, only use it as features to detect AI slop. Otherwise the collateral damage on good actors with bad websites would be risky early on.

[carlosjobim]

> Yes, I'm the ML lead.

I never had any doubt about that ;)

What I was meaning with "are you certain" is regarding how Kagi treats the spam signals from WordPress plugins and themes. And now you gave the answer, thanks for that! I believe you will have good returns in using those signals.