[tobrien6]

BYD is overhyped in the US for some reason. In the countries where they are available, they are considered decent budget vehicles. There's a reason why the Model Y is still the best seller in China.

[Someone]

https://autovista24.autovistagroup.com/news/what-were-best-s... says, for the first half of 2025:

  Best-selling BEVs in China
  January to June 2025

  Geely Geome Xingyuan     205,091
  BYD Seagull              174,912
  Tesla Model Y            171,491

and

  Tesla’s quarterly delivery boost meant its June results
  propelled the Model Y into third, from fifth in May

⇒ I doubt the Tesla model Y is the best seller in China.

[MangoToupe]

> In the countries where they are available, they are considered decent budget vehicles.

Yes, and I want a decent budget vehicle here.

[ben_w]

> There's a reason why the Model Y is still the best seller in China.

Yes, but it's the same reason the original bondi blue iMac was the best selling model of computer when it came out, while Apple themselves were still on something like 5% of desktop sales:

Lots of wood behind few arrows.

https://carnewschina.com/2024/07/14/best-selling-vehicle-bra...

(Caveat: first result, I don't know site reputation)

[mikestew]

Same country that seems to disproportionately like Buicks? Yeah, “there’s a reason”, but it might not be what you think it is.

[shagmin]

Some would say Tesla has been over hyped as well.

[dzhiurgis]

They can say, but in open markets Teslas sell better than cheaper BYD’s.

[ben_w]

1. Are there any truly open markets for cars?

2. Tesla China has factories in China, was still #8 in Chinese market, with BYD at #1, if this source from 2024 is correct: https://carnewschina.com/2024/07/14/best-selling-vehicle-bra...

[dzhiurgis]

Australia, NZ.

I've test drove my mates atto3, I have model y. He's got lots of regrets, fixes. It's made from good materials, styled poorly and technology is like everyone else - poorly done. Price does reflect it, no free lunch.

[sfjailbird]

X-Pengs are where it's at. They are taking over fast in Europe with better cars for less money.

[IshKebab]

The hype is because they are decent budget vehicles.

[tzs]

> There's a reason why the Model Y is still the best seller in China

...and that reason is that Tesla only has two models, the 3 and Y, that get any significant sales in China whereas BYD has several.

For example in the top 10 a couple months ago BYD had models that sold 70%, 69%, 59%, 58%, and 53% of what the Model Y sold.

When you look at cars sold per company rather than specific models Tesla is #10 in China with 1/6th of BYD's sales. Between BYD and Tesla there is Geely, Chery, Changan, Haval, a SAIC-GM-Wuling joint venture, a SAIC-Volkswagen joint venture, Toyota, and Xiaomi Auto.