[Aurornis]

> This is to say that Apple used to represent a sort of freedom to escape what used to be Microsoft's walled garden. Now it's just another dead-end closed ecosystem

So you haven’t had a Mac since 2017, but you believe all of us using Macs are stuck in some walled garden?

These comments are so weird. Gatekeeper can be turned off easily if that’s what you want. Most of us leave it on because it’s not actually a problem in practice. The homebrew change doesn’t even impact non-cask formulas.

[PeaceTed]

It is said you only realise you are in jail once you feel the chains. And this is something Apple has tried to walk the line on, be locked down but in a fashion that causes the least push back on users.

Personally I never felt Mac OS was that locked down, but it has been over a decade since I last used it.

The only time I felt it was trying to delete 'Chess' only it to be listed as a vital system application. I know this isn't true but I would love it if Chess turned out to be a load bearing application for the entire OS. Like folks at Apple don't know why but if you remove it, everything stops.At least MS managed to remove the load bearing Space cadet pinball. Replaced it with a One drive popup that handles all memory management in the kernel ;)

Back to the original point, by comparison on iOS I definetly did feel the chains. One could fear Mac OS will turn into that but they haven't conditioned people yet.

[kstrauser]

I have to agree. Number of times it’s prevented me from running software I wanted to run: zero. Number of times it’s stopped me and said the equivalent of “are you really sure?”: a handful, maybe once a year on average.

And it’s not like I don’t use a gazillion third party apps and commands.

[Aurornis]

Same. I can see how it would look like a major problem if your only perspective was through clickbait headlines and angry comments from people who don’t use Macs anyway, though.

It reminds me of the distant cousin who lives out the countryside and prides themselves on not living in the city because the news tells them it’s a dangerous hellhole where everyone is getting mugged or shot on every street corner. When you immerse yourself in clickbait journalism the other side, whatever that may be, starts to look much worse than reality.

[91bananas]

running VMs on apple chips has been rather difficult for me. other than that, yeah.