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by Arnt 211 days ago
The network permission was displayed in the first versions of Android, then removed. I heard (hearsay alert) at the time that it was because so many apps needed it, and they wanted to get rid of always-yes questions. IIRC this happened before the rise of in-app advertising.

If people always answer yes, they grow tired and eventually don't notice the question. I've seen it happen with "do you want to overwrite the previous version of the document you're editing, which you saved two minutes ago?" At that point your question is just poisoning the well. Makes sense, but still, hearsay alert.
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fauigerzigerk 211 days ago
As far as I'm concerned they can grant this permission by default. I just want the power to disable it.

A while ago I wanted to scan the NFC chip in my passport. Obviously, I didn't want this information to leave my device.

There are many small utility apps and games that have no reason to require network access. So "need" is not quite the right word here. They _want_ network access and they _want_ to be able to bully users into granting it.

That's a weird justification for granting it by default. But I wouldn't care if I could disable it.

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Arnt 211 days ago
Android doesn't grant this by default, strictly speaking. Rather, an application can enable it by listing it in the application manifest. Most permissions require a question to to the user.

Did you find a suitable app? I don't really remember, but https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nxp.taginf... might suit you.

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fauigerzigerk 211 days ago
I did find one but it was years ago so I don't remember.
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u8080 211 days ago
Could have been easily solved by granting it by default, but I doubt that was original intent.
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Arnt 211 days ago
Well, the original intent was to ask the user for permission at installation time, which turned out to be a poor idea after a while. Perhaps you mean that it would have been simple to change the API in some particular way, while retaining compatibility with existing apps? If I remember the timeline correctly, which is far from certain, this happened around the same time as Android passed 100k apps, so a fairly strong compatibility requirement.
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u8080 211 days ago
I mean, just make it "Granted" by default and give user ability to control it. Permissions API was already broken few times(i.e. Location for bluetooth and granular Files permissions)
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