[bonsai_spool]

> if you want to have a care-taker who doesn't mind lying or is a psychopath, you do you but it's a no go for me.

We've gone from accused of research fraud to psychopath.

My original point is that I don't see how the effort to produce new knowledge has any bearing on the appropriate management of diabetes/thyroid hormone.

[photon_lines]

So if your endocrinologist was found to have ran a concentration camp in the past, it would have no effect on your decision on whether you wanted to use them as your doctor? Running a concentration camp also has no bearing on a doctor's performance.

[bonsai_spool]

> So if your endocrinologist was found to have ran a concentration camp in the past, it would have no effect on your decision on whether you wanted to use them as your doctor? Running a concentration camp also has no bearing on a doctor's performance.

The story presented here is that OP disliked their mother's physician. There was no discussion of malpractice. Then, OP seems to have searched for information about the physician.

'Research misconduct' and murdering your fellow man are... not the same thing.

[blobbers]

Her behavior is completely psychopathic.

It has to do with the integrity and willingness of someone to tell the truth; if she's willing to destroy evidence to avoid criticism, what other types of mistakes is she willing to cover up when dealing with a patient?

This seems pretty obvious, how are you not understanding this? It isn't her effort to produce new knowledge, its her willingness to lie in the face of failure.

If a patient of hers dies or starts to decline, she could falsify cause. The list goes on. She is so far on the slippery slope that it is dangerous for her to care for anyone.

[bonsai_spool]

> if she's willing to destroy evidence to avoid criticism, > ts her willingness to lie in the face of failure.

This was not presented in the original post. My question was, why is alleged research misconduct a disqualification?

Also a panel of this person's peers decided she merited reinstatement.

> If a patient of hers dies or starts to decline, she could falsify cause.

Not something that is happening in outpatient endocrinology.

[blobbers]

There's plenty of chances for misdiagnosis in outpatient endocrinology. If she misses or delays a thyroid cancer diagnosis, or doesn't follow up with a patient at risk, etc, and then lies to cover it up.

I answered your question clearly: research misconduct and her reasoning for it indicates a willingness to lie that should not be allowed in a high trust field such as medicine. She has been banned from receiving Canadian federal funding for life. Her medical license was reinstated but it was a split vote (3-2) and widely criticized, but she is banned from conducting research and has to be monitored by a therapist.

I get that you like to argue, but you should probably learn to admit when you're wrong.

[bonsai_spool]

I can see you think you are correct and aren’t really engaging with my arguments- fine.

The original post gave no reasons for not liking the person, and then said she had this research thing. If someone looked into your past, what would they find?

I see your point about morality, but that has very little to do with essentially following algorithms all day.

Had the OP said something related to medicine vs feeling bad vibes, we’d be in a different position.

admit when you’re wrong - holy ad hominem, Batman

[pertymcpert]

You don’t see how being a dishonest person committing research fraud should disqualify you from treating patients?

[bonsai_spool]

> You don’t see how being a dishonest person committing research fraud should disqualify you from treating patients?

Correct. And, a panel of this person's peers found that, in fact, the alleged research fraud should not disqualify the person from treating patients.

[pertymcpert]

It certainly wasn’t unanimous. I generally hold my doctors to a higher ethical standard given they’re dealing with people’s lives. Maybe you have lower standards.