[theultdev]

I don't care what they use. Nuclear preferred but whatever works for the area.

Natural gas is the main reason our emissions have gone down as it replaces coal.

Also I don't think forcing is necessary. These datacenters want to, why impose more regulations.

[testing22321]

Your grandchildren will care if they use coal or natural gas.

Aim higher. Do better.

[theultdev]

Yes they will, they will prefer natural gas of those two. The main reason of emission reductions as we transition off of coal.

I really hope we go all in on nuclear though, with some natural gas and get rid of the windmills. Solar, hydro, geothermal can stay where it makes sense.

Unfortunately our skies and land are littered with windmills made out of unrecyclable polymers that are terrible for raptors.

Queue someone quoting how many cats kill birds like competing with the top predator is a good thing, or ignoring the fact that we put these in raptors' wind streams and cats don't hunt those large birds (which are usually endangered)

Our kids deserve nuclear.

[triceratops]

Aah a True Bird Lover. Wants to protect birds from windmills. Doesn't care how many bird habitats oil drilling destroys. Hasn't seen any pictures of oil coated birds from the Exxon Valdez or the Deepwater Horizon.

> made out of unrecyclable polymers

Does this mean you support banning plastic straws too? All plastics are essentially unrecyclable.

> Our kids deserve nuclear.

By all means. If it can be done as cheaply as wind and solar.

[theultdev]

> Aah a True Bird Lover.

You don't know me, but yes birds are a passion of mine.

I don't particularly like drilling oils and we should transition off.

Does that justify the damage windmills do? No.

> Does this mean you support banning plastic straws too? All plastics are essentially unrecyclable.

https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/CENODS/10027-cover-casper-o...

I support as little waste as possible. Everything adds up. Especially giant windmills.

> By all means. If it can be done as cheaply as wind and solar.

Nuclear is cheap and safe, it's the damn bureaucracy that's expensive.

Let's get real, stop putting up trash, and start boiling water.

[testing22321]

New Nuclear is by far the most expensive way to generate power today. It gets worse everyday.

[LunaSea]

> Unfortunately our skies and land are littered with windmills made out of unrecyclable polymers that are terrible for raptors.

Like our lands and oceans are not littered with drilling platforms and fracking stations already

[gowld]

non-responsive to the parent comment. Oil is not nuclear.

[LunaSea]

Incorrect, parent comment mentioned gas.

[theultdev]

Ideally we could get rid of everything for nuclear, but that's not today's reality. The truth is natural gas is needed to transition off of coal and has helped reduce emissions.

That being said, I would like to reduce those drilling rigs. However I don't see their existence justification for more damage by putting up windmills.

It's classic whataboutism. Both things can be harmful.

Below is an exercise to help point it out.

> Like our lands and oceans are not littered ... already

Without the "what about" subject, this statement looks bad doesn't it?

That reasoning is no different than the people who see trash on the ground and throw more because it's already trashed, so why not.