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by whizzter 215 days ago
That brings you back to managing memory though, C++/CLI having access to managed C# handles/references for GC'd objects (and finalization) would greatly simplify any memory management at the same time as having first class access to native libaries.

Granted, one could probably build some of the machinery memory management in a simple way but it'd still need to be done and probably not be coherent with other native interfaces.
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vrighter 215 days ago
I've used p/invoke extensively. You can easily make your own managed handles. It's not as easy as straight up calling c#, but it's not really that bad either.
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tracker1 214 days ago
It's not that hard to create a C# wrapper class if you need to hold on to pointers that need to be cleaned up by the C code... you can keep a private property reference and call the appropriate C code as part of your Destructor or IDisposable implementation.

If you're wanting to use a C library, yeah, you need to manage how you use that C library, this is true regardless of the language you are using, it isn't magic.

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to11mtm 215 days ago
IDK, for certain cases those fancy libraries are just handling the ugly marshal calls for you.

Wayyyy back in the day, before package managers were a thing, I had to write something to output a PDF via DLL calls and frankly it wasn't a bad experience. Possibly outside of what is in a 'modern' workflow but honestly wasn't too difficult. Just wrap it all in a class that only gives what you need and avoids potential footguns via validation.

Frankly it was easier than doing anything with Autocad's 'managed' libraries [0].

Maybe it's rose colored glasses for me, but .NET had fairly simple rules for most marshal bits so long as you knew them, although I will admit we didn't worry about 'performance' for the stuff I wrote and that can be a factor.

[0] - Microstation had a bunch of fancy COM hooks and exposed all of it to .NET in a nice way. AutoCAD 'managed' libs had all sorts of weird sorts of arcane rules and if you failed to follow them not only could you crash your .NET process but Autocad could remain unstable until you rebooted the PC... which is why I keep putting managed in air quotes.

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