[lumens]

Perhaps more a reaction to pressure from Tesla; the latest FSD builds show full autonomy is coming very soon. Without highway driving, Waymo would quickly be seen as a distant second in the race when the safety driver is removed from Robotaxis in Austin (supposedly before EOY 2025).

[TulliusCicero]

"Ignore the previous eighteen wildly off predictions; this time we got it for sure!"

Note, in July of this year, Musk predicted robotaxi service for half the country by the end of 2025. It's November now and they haven't even removed the safety monitors, in any city!

[dzhiurgis]

> how dare they beta test this on public

> they haven't even removed safety drivers, loooosers!

Can't win either of you guys.

[TulliusCicero]

I didn't say either of those things, but I understand that engaging with what I said instead of just strawmanning my position would be rather inconvenient for you.

[boulos]

Not at all. We've been working on this for a while, and we're now comfortable with the reliability bar we've hit to begin a gradual rollout to the public. As people said, this has been years in the making.