[bakies]

I'm not really clear on the complaint. Is it immutability or not? I'm not saying delete the cluster and start over, I'm saying i can yank a node or destroy a container without (much of) a consequence. Talos is immutable similarly to nix afaik

[devsda]

I guess the complaint is that with resources being immutable, the only standard & recommended way to deal with a problem is to take the resource out.

I know that is the whole point of sheep vs pets but it somehow became the "did you restart the pc" version for operations.

[bakies]

There's only small parts of the typically used parts of the kubernetes api that are immutable and those have good reasons. So I'm still not really sure what issue you're describing.