[stinkbeetle]

I don't see much hostility at all. A few people don't like them. That's not weird hostility, isn't it just self-expression? Like the stickers that oppose or express a dislike of something, which presumably aren't weird hostility either. People are allowed to dislike or disagree or make not entirely positive comments. Sure some would just scroll on, arguably that's the better thing to do, but commenting in self-expression is really fine too. It seems like a strange kind of fragility and inability to tolerate or understand that people don't all think alike which would jump to thinking that is "hostility".

[weird-eye-issue]

There are a lot of flagged comments at the bottom

[stinkbeetle]

Yeah, even in those. There was like one low effort obvious troll, others are just self-expressing their dislike, pretty similar to many others here expressing their like of the stickers or the website with similar kind of quips.

I tend to just scroll on if I don't like something, rather than commenting about it. But I would be lying if I said I've never done it. It's a very human thing, on a forum like this that invites open discussion about things it is fine, and pretty obviously if the pictures have a bunch of political messages on them you would not be flabbergasted to see a some political comments. Maybe the comments are cringy, silly, wrong, not aligned with your beliefs, or unnecessary, but seeing hostility in disagreement or dislike is a pretty bad place to be.

[imiric]

Ah, yes, downvoted and flagged comments is how I know someone is wrong and not worth reading.

[weird-eye-issue]

I was simply pointing out that most people cannot even see the content of those messages so they might have just missed them.

I'm not sure why you interpreted my comment in the way that you did.

[braden-lk]

Do you see me petitioning the site to remove their comment? They are welcome to have bad taste and a bad attitude.

[stinkbeetle]

Non sequitur. I was addressing what I did see in your comment, and nothing I wrote suggested or implied that you did or even thought any such thing.

[squigz]

If you go to an art show and are like, "Wow, these all suck! Why didn't any of you artists do art the way I think it should be done?!"

That's not self-expression. That's being an asshole.

[stinkbeetle]

Okay. Were you hoping I would address this scenario of your own fabrication, or are you able to make your point using this actual situation right in front of us that we are discussing?

People self-expressing dislike for some content under a link on public forum that explicitly invites comment is not hostility. Making comments and disagreement about politics is not hostility (particularly in response to political content being posted). It just isn't.

If you posted up a page of pictures of "Lifted trucks of West Virginia adorned with creative bumper stickers" here you would get a lot of negative opinions and politcial commentary. That also would not be "weird hostility", it would be completely obvious and understandable preferences and opinions ranging from people who don't like the trucks or covering them with stickers, to those who feel strongly about politics.

Again, you're allowed to discuss things and disagree with them. People aren't assholes or hostile for doing it. Learn to live and let live, no need to try to guilt people about it.

[squigz]

> Okay. Were you hoping I would address this scenario of your own fabrication, or are you able to make your point using this actual situation right in front of us that we are discussing?

It's not a "scenario" - it's a comparison, an example. It's no different to this forum - people choose to come here. Someone chose to share TFA. People chose to enter these comments and shit on people's design choices and take weird stands about political balance.

> If you posted up a page of pictures of "Lifted trucks of West Virginia adorned with creative bumper stickers" here you would get a lot of negative opinions and politcial commentary. That also would not be "weird hostility", it would be completely obvious and understandable preferences and opinions ranging from people who don't like the trucks or covering them with stickers, to those who feel strongly about politics.

Sure, these are obviously the same...

> Again, you're allowed to discuss things and disagree with them. People aren't assholes or hostile for doing it. Learn to live and let live, no need to try to guilt people about it.

Those people could "learn to live and let live" with regards to people harmlessly putting stickers on their laptops.

[stinkbeetle]

> It's not a "scenario" - it's a comparison, an example.

Semantics. You invented a scenario and you attempted to make some point that presumably you were unable to make with the situation at hand.

> It's no different to this forum - people choose to come here. Someone chose to share TFA. People chose to enter these comments and shit on people's design choices and take weird stands about political balance.

I think it is different. If it were not different you would not have been compelled to think of it.

> Sure, these are obviously the same...

Now you don't like "comparisons"? It's more similar than your one.

> Those people could "learn to live and let live" with regards to people harmlessly putting stickers on their laptops.

Expressing a dislike for something is not incompatible with live and let live. It is participating in a conversation. It's not hostile, it doesn't need to be guilted or suppressed or name-called.

[squigz]

> I think it is different. If it were not different you would not have been compelled to think of it.

Not actually responding to the essence of the comparison.

> Now you don't like "comparisons"?

Just bad-faith comparisons that equate "Just Be Yourself" stickers with "I hate fags" stickers

> Expressing a dislike for something is not incompatible with live and let live. It is participating in a conversation. It's not hostile, it doesn't need to be guilted or suppressed or name-called.

Again, if you consider a group of people sharing their art between each other and having a conversation about it, and someone comes in and is like "This art is stupid." that is hostile. That is exactly what is happening here.

[stinkbeetle]

> Not actually responding to the essence of the comparison.

The comparison was a bad-faith strawman that did not reflect the conversation here. In that situation a person might be an asshole, possibly even hostile. That does not automatically make these commenters hostile assholes, that's just the height of intellectual laziness.

> Just bad-faith comparisons that equate "Just Be Yourself" stickers with "I hate fags" stickers

No I didn't make that comparison, and you're a nasty and intellectually dishonest person for trying to say I did.

> Again, if you consider a group of people sharing their art between each other and having a conversation about it, and someone comes in and is like "This art is stupid." that is hostile. That is exactly what is happening here.

No that's not hostile. Somebody submitted this content inviting the HN community to comment on it and oh my god not everybody loves it. Some even hate it and are blunt about it. That's not weird hostility, it's people self-expressing their dislike of things in not always polite terms. Like some of these laptop stickers are doing.

[imiric]

Thank you for being a voice of reason within the hive mind.

[Freedom2]

Agreed. Some forget that the US has this beautiful great thing called freedom of speech, meaning that some can express to like things, as well as dislike things! It's not uncommon to find stickers among laptops where some are excited for environmental safety and conservationism, and some are for Tesla / Palantir and the values and ethos that they want to perpetuate across the globe.