[glenstein]

>Of course this seems attractive for some reasons, but it is a wrong, degenerative way to be in the world.

I share your sense that there's something psychologically vivid and valuable in that passage, but it's part of an implicit bargain that's uncontroversial in other respects - I don't have to be an electrician to want a working light switch. I don't personally inspect elevators or planes or, in many cases, food. It's the basic bargain of modernity.

I suppose, to your point, the important distinction here is that I wouldn't call myself an electrician if my relationship to the subject matter doesn't extend beyond the desire to flip a switch.

[abathologist]

I'd argue that you understand what a light switch does well enough to use it effectively for its purpose.

When me move from just making use of something to using something to make with, that is when we should have a deeper understanding I think.

Does that sound right?

> the important distinction here is that I wouldn't call myself an electrician if my relationship to the subject matter doesn't extend beyond the desire to flip a switch.

Yeah, that seems right to me!