[bpoyner]

Chuckling at the disclaimer 'No AI made by a human.' I doubt many web devs could tell you that because so many use AI now. I was speaking with a web dev this summer and he told me AI made him at least twice as productive. It's an arms race to the bottom imo.

[Cthulhu_]

Which begs the question, are people consciously measuring their productivity? If so, how? And did they do it the same way before and after using AI tooling?

Anecdotal, but I don't measure my productivity, because it's immeasurable. I don't want to be reduced to lines of code produced or JIRA tickets completed. We don't even measure velocity, for that matter. Plus when I do end up with a task that involves writing something, my productivity depends entirely on focus, energy levels and motivation.

[jeltz]

One of the only studied made so far showed lower actual productivity despite higher self reported productivity. That study was quite limited but I would take self reported productivity with a huge grain of salt.

[tracker1]

I tried Github CoPilot for about a year, I may try Claude for a bit sooner or later.

It felt like it got in the way about half the time. The only place I really liked it was for boilerplate SQL code... when I was generating schema migration files, it did pretty good at a few things based on what I was writing. Outside that, I don't feel like it helped me much.

For the Google search results stuff, Gemini, I guess... It's hit or miss... sometimes you'll get a function or few things that look like they should work, but no references to the libraries you need to install/add and even then may contain errors.

I watched a friend who is really good with the vibe coding thing, but it just seemed like a frustrating exercise in feeding it the errors/mistakes and telling it to fix them. It's like having a brilliant 10yo with ADD for a jr developer..

[DANmode]

…that never stops asking you for more work.

And doesn’t bother you when the tab is closed.

I can see why a lot of high school and college kids are going to need to claw.

[tracker1]

The issue is that you can't give AI a task and let it go off and it actually performs said task in a couple hours and then comes to ask for more... you have to pretty much baby sit it.

Now, I could see a single person potentially managing 2-3 AI sessions across different projects as part of a larger application. Such as a UI component/section along with one or more backend pieces. But then, you're going to need 2-3x the AI resources, network use, etc. Which is something I wouldn't mind experimenting with on someone else's dime.

[DANmode]

Are you using project architecture, and rules documents?

[rekabis]

> he told me AI made him at least twice as productive.

He’s not only lying to you, he’s also lying to himself.

Recent 12-month studies show that less than 2% of AI users saw an increase in work velocity, and those were only the very top-skilled workers. Projection also indicated that of the other 98%, over 90% of them will never work faster with AI than without, no matter how long they work with AI.

TL;DR: the vast majority of people will only ever be slower with AI, not faster.