[jonasdegendt]

> That gives slightly better than the inflation rate ( Canada ).

What do you mean? Over the last year any one of the index funds I'm in has beat inflation by a factor of five, some beat inflation by an order of magnitude. My worst performer is an iShares world fund, which generally has more temperate gains, clocking in at 10% YoY.

Looking at Canadian indices such as $VCN, it's the same story.

[betaby]

As of October 2025, in the previous 30 Years, the Vanguard FTSE Canada All Cap Index (VCN.TO) ETF obtained a 8.72% compound annual return.

~2x better than the official inflation over the same 30 years. I don't see the factor of five or order of magnitude. Also those gains are taxable.

[YZF]

If you're in Canada you almost certainly want to diversify from Canadian indices. US markets have tended to outperform.

Indices can return >20% one year and -10% other years. I think OP is talking recently, not over 30 years. Over the long term indices like the S&P 500 tend to have a real return of 6-7% ...

[osti]

That's the biggest problem I have with the recommendation to buy indices as if indices grow at >8% annually is an natural law.

Many (most) indices of countries in the world performed way less than 8%. US performed exceptionally well over almost a century so people are starting to take it as a natural law. If I buy US index, I'm still putting a directional bet on US stock market performing at an exceptional rate.

[throw0101a]

One can buy "all-in-one" index-of-index funds that have all US equities, all EU, etc. In Canada (which sub-thread stated with), see VEQT or XEQT (100% equities), VGRO/XGRO (80/20), VBAL/XBAL (60/40), VCNS/XCNS (40/60).

You can probably find an 'asset allocation' fund in most countries; e.g., in the US:

* https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/mutual-fun...

There are also (more dynamic) 'target date' funds, where the bond allocation increases over time.

[osti]

Yeah, and those have underpermed historically and it's definitely not recommended by most people.

[throw0101a]

> Yeah, and those have underpermed historically […]

Huh? Underperformed what, exactly? A globally-diversified portfolios of stocks have underperformed …a globally-diversified portfolios of stocks? …tech stocks? …consumer staples? …utilities? …Treasuries?

1/3/5/10/20-year annualized returns are available at:

* https://canadianportfoliomanagerblog.com/model-etf-portfolio...

> […] and it's definitely not recommended by most people.

Again: huh? Who is not recommending index funds for most people? And what is recommended "by most people" if not index funds?

[throw0101d]

> If you're in Canada you almost certainly want to diversify from Canadian indices. US markets have tended to outperform.

If you buy "all-in-one" VEQT/XEQT (100% equities) you are buying an index funds of index funds: all Canadian equities, all US equities, EU, etc:

* https://canadianportfoliomanagerblog.com/model-etf-portfolio...

* https://canadiancouchpotato.com/model-portfolios/

If you don't want 100% equities, there are VGRO/XGRO (80/20), VBAL/XBAL (60/40), VCNS/XCNS (40/60), etc.