[alephnerd]

London and Toronto have a similar CoL as the Bay Area and $45/hr is a mid-career tech salaries in both Greater London and GTA.

Edit: can't reply but every single white collar job provides an employer healthcare plan that is equally as competitive as the public healthcare plans in Canada and the UK.

And especially if you were being paid $50/hr as a new grad in 2014.

Edit 2:

> And I was in Michigan.

All the more reason I would have pushed back severely. It's easier to find talent at scale in London or GTA - metros there have a population larger than the entire state of MI, and with a breadth of options beyond UMich Ann-Arbor.

[csullivannet]

$45/hr is low for GTA. I was making about that in Toronto in 2017 with two years experience, one year vocational degree, and a bachelor's in a completely unrelated field.

[usefulcat]

> every single white collar job provides an employer healthcare plan that

The key word there is employer. Contractors often don't get health insurance, and contract jobs are not uncommon in the US.

[evantbyrne]

London and Toronto give people healthcare. And I was in Michigan.

[monero-xmr]

The vast majority of jobs in America give healthcare. The quality is vastly superior to London and Toronto, although we pay far more (and our medical professionals are upper middle class rather than middle / lower class). However this is a huge hidden portion of salary that most are not aware of, about $25k for a family of 4, which increases labor costs greatly.

On sheer metrics of access and quality, America kicks the shit out of Europe and Canada

[lbreakjai]

I hope we continue getting the shit kicked out of us, if victory looks like medical bankrupcy, and insulin rationing.

[flir]

So, uh... how come you die younger?

[hunterpayne]

Opioid epidemic skews the stats.

The OP's point is why the wealthy in your country comes to the US for healthcare

[flir]

When did the opioid epidemic start? How come other countries don't have that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_hea...