[vlucas]

You can't, and this was readily apparent in 2020 with Covid. Even doctors presenting factual information got censored and de-platformed by YouTube.

The only real competing video platform that promises no censorship is Rumble ( https://rumble.com ), but it has a very right-wing slant due to conservatives flocking to it during all the Covid-era social media censorship.

[chasd00]

Yeah the moment they started I knew it was doomed to fail. Get it wrong once and your credibility is ruined. They should have never tried to censor content outside of what is legally required and therefore defined.

[aucisson_masque]

I kind of agree but laws vary from countries to countries. It's quite an hassle to know what is legal in one country and not in another.

Take freedom of speech for instance, half the thing you can say in usa would be deemed as hate speech in Europe.

[immibis]

Society is doomed because we stopped silencing disinformation peddlers. We know what happens when Nazis are allowed to spread propaganda freely - because that happened one time in Germany, and we saw the results. We don't know what happens when antivaxxers are allowed to spread propaganda freely, but it's not hard to guess, and measles cases are on the rise. You can argue it's not YouTube's problem to solve, but nobody else is solving it, so it's hard for me to blame them for trying.

There's also this annoying pattern where 98% of the complaints about censorship are from people who are mad that the objectively stupid and dangerous stuff they were trying to profit from got censored, so it becomes a "boy who cried wolf" situation where any complaint about internet censorship is ignored on the assumption it's one of those. (What if there really is a Nigerian prince who needs my help, and I don't read his email?)

This time, though... Society is not being destroyed by people pirating Windows 11. That is entirely different from censoring things that destroy society, and they don't have a good excuse.

[viridian]

>Society is doomed because we stopped silencing disinformation peddlers. We know what happens when Nazis are allowed to spread propaganda freely - because that happened one time in Germany, and we saw the results.

That one time in Germany, actually an 80 year long ongoing event in central Europe. Hitler didn't wake up one day with a novel idea about the Jews and the place of the German people, these were foundational ideas in the culture at least as far back as Wagner.

If anything, this pro-censorship argument is self defeating, because the "disinformation" peddlers that were silenced in the second reich were generally those of the liberal, anglo, and francophilic variety, those who would seek to decenter the goal of a collective German destiny.

Censorship is only ever a good if you find yourself a part of the group that would be doing the censoring.

[zahlman]

> promises no censorship... has a very right-wing slant

https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservativ...

> The moral of the story is: if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. It will be a terrible place to live even if witch-hunts are genuinely wrong.

[MYEUHD]

If you want to avoid censorship, self-host Peertube and have peave of mind.

[davidmurdoch]

That's just self censorship, since no one will see your videos there

[layer8]

You can do both.

[autoexec]

I looked at the front page alone and it's full of right wing hot takes and neo-nazis. If a platform wants to accept white-supremacists that's one thing. When it's right on their front page though it's being actively promoted.

Rumble isn't going to save the internet.

[myko]

Right, it is explicitly a neo-Nazi platform

[krapp]

>Right, it is explicitly a neo-Nazi platform

We call those "free speech" platforms nowadays, because apparently the only free speech is Nazi speech.

[treyd]

It's because the only valid argument nazis have for why they should be allowed to broadcast what they have to say is that (in most jurisdictions) it's not literally illegal to.

[stOneskull]

odysee is similar but maybe with more of an anarchist/conspiracy theory slant than rumble