[godelski]

I think you frame it that way you need to offer the other version.

I do wonder how many people would buy non-spy versions of devices given the option. More specifically, what that differential in price would be too. At worst it would be interesting to have a price explicitly stating what our data is worth. Many people actually internalize that it's not that valuable, but doing this would make it explicit.

[smt88]

> I do wonder how many people would buy non-spy versions of devices given the option.

Depending on the discount for the spyware version, I'd guess close to zero. The general public has become completely numb to being spied on. It's hard to get someone to give up $50 (a real cost) for something nebulous like "very slightly less of your life is known by marketing companies".

[potato3732842]

You vastly over-estimate the average ROI per user being spied on.

[chipsrafferty]

I'd pay for it if I could somehow know that they also deleted all the data they tracked in the past (impossible since they already sold it 100x)

[godelski]

  > It's hard to get someone to give up $50 (a real cost) for something nebulous like "very slightly less of your life is known by marketing companies".

I'd gladly pay that price. I'm pretty sure there's a large number of us that would.

It's easy to make claims like yours without the real world data. To believe that things are the way they are because that's the most efficient way. Back justification is not logical. Idk about you, but I frequently make mistakes and need to redo things. I'm pretty confident it's just because I'm human and not an omniscient god.

Also, I'd suspect it might be more than $50. We didn't create a surveillance capitalist economy with trillion dollar businesses that resulted in everything including your vacuum spying on you because your data isn't valuable. Clearly it is...

The problem more is that people don't understand how that data is used and can be used. Which I don't blame anyone for that. It's abstract and honestly sounds like the stuff of tin foil hat conspiracy theorists. But at the same time, here we are. The point of ads is to manipulate you to buy things. Which isn't always bought with money. We have several multi trillion dollar companies and I'm pretty sure they don't exist for nothing

[Eddy_Viscosity2]

Its also because people don't trust companies to not spy on them, even when they say they aren't, even when you paid them not to. They still will. So if I see a offer for to pay $100 more for a vacuum that won't spy on me, I think - yeah right, you're going to spy on me AND get any extra hundred bucks.