[bigyabai]

I'm familiar with them both. We can play the pull quotes game all week, it's fruitless. American politics have been like this for centuries and it's nothing new.

What you are falling victim to is transgressive politics. Both sides have policy that chafes with you, and instead of admitting that you're being ragebaited, you're insisting that it's my fault for not recognizing it as some unforseen political maelstrom of racist communism. The big ugly thing you're pointing at is simply called politics.

[moosedman]

You don't seem to be very clear on US politics if you think there is nothing extraordinary about their rise on the political stage, a rise driven in large part by desperation from Gen Z.

[bdangubic]

there isn’t… you are probably young and think this is something extraordinary … us in 50’s - we’ve seen this shit before too many times :)