[bemmu]

  Senior Raya Osagie, 16, said she has to “think more in class” because she used to Google answers or use artificial intelligence. “Now when we get computers, I actually have to [do] deep research instead of going straight to AI,” she said.

This kind of blew my mind a bit, as I had always imagined AI being used to do homework, hadn't occurred to me it could be used during a class as well.

[ugh123]

That just sounds like lazy teacher discipline in class. Decades ago we couldn't even use calculators on some tests, but now (or up until recently) they could practically have a computer in their hands all class?

[phainopepla2]

Allowing kids to have their phones in class, even if they weren't allowed to use them, was setting teachers up for failure. It's easy to call them lazy, but if you've ever tried to police the phone use of a bunch of screen-addicted adolescents you would understand. The calculator comparison is not a good one.

[malnourish]

I encourage you to seek first-hand accounts of what teaching in a contemporary public school classroom is like. Teacher discipline can account for so much.

[bongodongobob]

Teachers are widely hated by the "stupid" class, which is most people. The students are set up for failure by their parents before they even enter the classroom. This has been going on for 50+ years.

[aidenn0]

I commented on this elsewhere, but at least one local school recently simultaneously did the following:

1. Required teachers to have kids turn-in their phones for the duration of each class period

2. Banned teachers from kicking kids out of the class who did not turn in their phones.

Teachers don't enforce the rules here because they don't believe the administration will have their back if they try. They can assign detention for students not listening, but many students don't show up for detention, and meanwhile that student still has the phone.

[zormino]

When I was in university, I had a math teacher that brought extra chalk to class everyday because if he saw you on your phone, he'd snap a piece off and throw it at you pretty damn hard. Maybe that wouldn't exactly work in a high school but damn if Dr Murphy didn't have me paying attention in that class.

[bongodongobob]

It's "literal violence" now and you'd get sued and lose your job.

[aidenn0]

That being called "literal violence" is one thing, but now a teacher telling a student "you should be ashamed with yourself" is also called "literal violence."

[josfredo]

What's also funny about that quote is that by "deep research" she's likely referring to googling the answer or using Wikipedia. Remember when Wikipedia was loathed by high school teachers?

[Razengan]

The insistence of people, in every era, on staying in a previous technology tier instead of reforming society and culture around the present ubiquitous technology, doesn't really make sense.

[QuercusMax]

Are you saying that reading comprehension is an outdated technology?

[Iulioh]

Look, I had a zoomer colleague of mine ask GPT to solve a moral dilemma in a personality test at work...

It's...rough out there.

[theshrike79]

As a certified couch psychologist, I'd wager this is also about the influencer culture and reaction videos etc.

People WANT to know how to feel about things, so they watch how other people react to them and form their opinions on that.

In the zoomer colleague case they most likely had a vague opinion, but needed a second opinion from someone (or something) to form their own properly

Which is really sad.

[im3w1l]

> Which is really sad.

Thanks for clarifying. But to be serious, I think it's the drive for culture in action. I think culture comes from people glancing at each other and doing what they do, reacting how they do. I think it can be healthy actually.

[Razengan]

> As a certified couch psychologist

Ah a fellow HN user ♡

[sznio]

I mean, if my goal was getting the correct answer that will satisfy the employer, I'd ask GPT too. The employer might not like my honest answer.

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

Surely reading comprehension is still required for, well, reading AI-generated text. Perhaps it's not their intention but I read an implication that using humans to source facts is outdated, which is... well, I'll just assume that I'm misunderstanding their perspective.

[r2_pilot]

> Surely reading comprehension is still required for, well, reading AI-generated text.

Found the optimist. (no, it unfortunately not required. Imagine, if you will, the world's worst version of the Telephone game...)

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

Sure, but the same failure mode exists for readers of human writing.