[hatefulmoron]

I don't really understand your point. It reads like you're saying "I like good code, it doesn't matter if it comes from a person or an LLM. If a person is good at using an LLM, it's fine." Sure, but the problem people have with LLMs is their _propensity_ to create slop in comparison to humans. Dismissing other people's observations as purely an emotional reaction just makes it seem like you haven't carefully thought about other people's experiences.

[WalterSear]

My point is that, if I can do it right, others can too. If someone's LLM is outputing slop, they are obviously doing something different: I'm using the same LLMs.

All the LLM hate here isn't observation, it's sour grapes. Complaining about slop and poor code quality outputs is confessing that you haven't taken the time to understand what is reasonable to ask for, aren't educating your junior engineers how to interact with LLMs.

[lukan]

"My point is that, if I can do it right, others can too."

Can it also be, that different people work in different areas and LLM's are not equally good in all areas?

[WalterSear]

That was my first assumption, quite a while ago now.

[rockskon]

???

People complaining about receiving bad code is, by definition, observation.